Jaswinder Singh,

I thank our God for your wonderful testimony. In the face of persecution, you did not deny His Name. Above all, you have chosen to be a full-time worker in His vineyard. May the Lord bless you and protect you from all the evil! Amen.

Job Anbalagan
http://whoisthisjesus.googlepages.com

Dear Jaswinder,
A smart person is the one who checks out the Bible for himself and not fall prey into someone's sweet talk. There is enough bullshit in the Bible that I ask you to read it.

Dear Job Anbalagan:
South Asian Connection is not a proper forum to talk about BULLSHIT in the Bible. WWW.Sikhspectrum.com is presently running debates on the Bible. Anyone can read these debates and participate through letters to the editor. If you are interested in the debate on BULLSHIT in the Bible, we can arrange that. The rules are simple: You write an article as a believer on the BULLSHIT. If you see no BULLSHIT in the Bible then you state that. Counter to that I will write my own views quoting BULLSHIT verses directly from the Bible. I might invite more Biblical scholars into the debate. You will be treated with due respect. The editor of Sikhspectrum is very conscious of that and maintains proper balance.

The evidences speak for themselves. Jaswinder Singh's changed life is proof positive that Jesus still has this magnetic appeal to all people groups for He is the Savior of all mankind. I am a Punjabi Christian and proud to call Jesus my Savior and Lord. The bible is my standard rule book for victorious living and great joy in my life. We miss out on God's best when we become angry, judgemental, legalistic, and worst bias when it is the very source of life for you. Praying for you - from NC, USA

(This is my subsequent post of today, in continuation of what I wrote earlier today).

Dear Singh,

“Bullshit in the Bible” is your subject of debate. At the outset, I would like you to define the concept of Bullshit here. According to the dictionary, it is "excrement of bull, nonsense, deceptive humbug", etc. While opening your argument, I would appreciate if you define clearly the particular meaning of this word “bullshit”. Then quote a particular passage from the Bible and argue how do you consider this passage as a bullshit.

Job Anbalagan

I agree with GB Singh, the bible is a fiction.

Respected G.B.Singh,

Please initiate the debate here. I am waiting for your post with all the humility. You had mentioned that the South Asian Connection is not the proper forum for this. I have requested my Christian friends not to post any message till both of us finish the debate ourselves. They will abide by my request. Please come forward. You are most welcome. I am giving you 3 days' time from today onwards. If you do not appear in this forum, it will be presumed that you have accepted your defeat and will accept the universal truth that the Bible is the inspired Word of God.

Since you have already entered this battlefield (forum), as a true Sikh who fights for his cause, you have to face me in this battlefield. A true Sikh who takes the sword will not go back to another battlefield to fight against his opponents. You have already entered the threshold of this battlefield with your sword. Please enter the forum.

Job Anbalagan

Dear Shaun Singh,

You are again appearing in our forum. I wanted you to tell us how you became a Christian as you claimed to be a former Baptist Christian. You are now questioning Harbans Singh about his "real name" whereas you appear to have adopted the Sikh name on your conversion and your original name was something else. You need not tell us to feed the poor, etc. The name of Harbans Singh has nothing to do with his attaining salvation through the Blood of Jesus Christ.

You say JC is not God. Yes, the person whom you know as JC is not God. But the Person whom we personally know is the God incarnate. Christians have not made Jesus as God at all. This shows your poor knowledge of Bible though you claim to be a former Christian. It is God the Father Who has exalted the Name of Jesus Christ above every name, and made Him the Savior of the whole world. You have stated that Christians are awaiting for a dead man to come to life. This again shows your complete ignorance of the Bible though you claim to be a former Christian. That is why we wanted to know how you became a Christian. We are not waiting for a dead man to come back but for the second advent of our Lord and Savior. This has been mentioned even in the Koran.

Job Anbalagan

Dear Mr. Anbalagan & others,
I do not own Sikhspectrum.com. I merely conduct debates on the Bible and write other articles of interest on that site.


It seems to me you like to puff out smokes on your readers. Nowhere did I agree to debate on South Asian Connection. Are you dreaming? I merely wrote a letter to Jaswinder (comment #3) and, you out of nowhere decided to jump in. Why? You behave as if you own Jaswinder.

Yes Bible is full of BULLSHIT and I stand by that statement. Its not your fault and it certainly is not my fault to find BULLSHIT in the Bible. You and I are it's readers; you it's follower, and I merely a student of it. We live in the 21st century and the Bible is no more a mystery and no more a "Word of God." Recognize for what the Bible truly is and if you can't (trait common among it's believers) I am available to help you. What is already posted on Sikhspectrum.com is just a beginning and you and others are welcome as my own brothers and sisters to learn from it. In due course of time there is much more on the Bible coming out.

Dear Job,

We are not spitting any venoms but we are correcting the error written by some so call former sikhs but actually have no clue what sikhism is.Thus they are not sikhs but call themselves former devout sikhs. Some pray to fake Gurus, some uses the sikh Gospels to justify JC is the only way. We are here to destroy falsehood. In the past we destroyed muslim invaders and help India remain a hindu nation,but today our real enemies is FALSEHOOD like this website.

Remember GOD is watching you.

(I now post this message in reply to comment No.17 of G.B.Singh).

Dear Shri G.B.Singh,


You now say that you did not agree to debate on South Asian Connection website and that you merely wrote a letter to Jaswinder (comment No.3). You did address your message to Jaswinder defining who a smart person was, and also adding that there was enough bullshit in the Bible. You did initiate a debate in this forum by questioning the Bible. It is not your agreeing to debate on our forum. The fact of the matter is that you did initiate a debate in this forum. It was not your personal letter to Jaswinder as your post was directed against the Church, the Body of Christ, questioning our fundamental faith based on the Bible. As such, your letter to Jaswinder cannot be treated as a personal letter to him.


Yes, I decided to jump into the forum because you wrote that there was enough bullshit in the Bible. Yes, I own Jaswinnder because he is in Christ Jesus and is of the Body of Christ, the universal Church. We are all members of the same Body. As such, I own my dear young brother in Christ. I will nurture him in the doctrines of the Bible.

You are again repeating the same argument saying that the Bible contains the bullshit. Please prove your statement in this very forum because you had chosen this forum to mention that the Bible contains the bullshit. Why do you drag us to another forum with which we are not concerned? You came into our battlefield with your sword drawn and could not succeed in defeating us.

You are free to write or post anything you like in the Sikhspectrum.com but you should not take this liberty for posting a message in a Christian website like South Asian Connection which you could not subsequently substantiate by your further arguments.

You may choose to post any such messages in the so-called Christian websites in the USA or the West. But, we upholding the Indian values and cultures would not allow anyone to browbeat us by using craftiness or by men's wisdom.

You did participate in this debate and are now backing out when confronted by us. We are holding the two edged Sword of the Spirit.

Job Anbalagan

Dear Mr. Anbalagan (& others),
Merely writing letters without substance is not what debate is. Please don't play with the words. Read my comment#5 that tells you some rules. If you are interested, I have a topic for you: KAMASUTRA & the BIBLE. We can schedule for its publication in May 07. You go ahead and write an article on this topic and pass it along to me in the next two months. Then I will write my own and then together publish it on the Sikhspectrum.com. A copy of it you or I can send to SAC for publication. Its really that simple. In case you care to know what a good article looks like, here is an example on the slavery promoted in the Bible:
http://www.sikhspectrum.com/082005/gbs.htm

I hope you will get down to reading the Bible and extracting all the Kamasutra-like verses. Bring them out. If you won't, I will. One final note: Please don't find excuses to get out of this. Good luck.

This is my final response to the post of Mr.G.B.Singh in this forum. He wanted me to debate on a topic “Kamasutra and the Bible”. I am not supposed to waste my precious time on a debate like this.

When Mr.G.B.Singh wrote something in our forum, I challenged him to prove his point by further discussion. He did not want to do so but wants me to debate on some other subject in some other forum.

Let the God of the Bible whom he degrades in his writings judge him through His judgment power! It is not through our words but through His judgment power, the Lord will manifest Himself to His enemies. He accuses the God of the Bile as responsible for murder, infanticide, violence, war, pestilence, cannibalism, mutilation, etc. by quoting from the Old Testament books and even from the Book of Revelation. Ultimately, he says,".... enlightened societies realize that gratuitous violence, when supported by society's leaders and other role models, can promote more violence. Their example sends a message to others that violence is an appropriate means of dealing with problems". God was revealing Himself through His judgment power for the sins of the people during the Old Covenant days.

The same God is alive today for judging those who accuse Him for His acts of judgment under the Old Covenant. The grace through the Blood of Jesus Christ will not be available to them who trample under foot the God of the Bible. Questioning God for His acts of judgment through our human wisdom! He quotes only those passages in the Bible where God was judging the people, and ignores those passages of the bible where the attributes of God like mercy, compassion, etc. are mentioned in the same bible. The devil quoted the Scriptures from one angle only to tempt Jesus in the wilderness.

The Bible as the Word of God converts the soul of a man who is a murderer, or a violent person. But GB Singh argues that the Bible promotes violence. In Delhi, I came across a person, namely, Sonu who had committed many crimes and attempted to murder a person in his colony. But the gospel of Christ touched his heart and today he is a new creature, preaching the love of God to others. The people who live in his colony once feared him but now see him a law-abiding citizen working with his hands. We have countless testimonies like this.

May the God of the Bible judge such people under the same Old Testament laws without showing mercy! Amen. With this, I put an end to the whole topic under this thread.

Job Anbalagan

Dear Mr, Anbalagan,
I read your comment#24. I understand you are led by the Holy Spirit. You have a right to believe the way you wish for yourself. On that note I respect you as a person.
Having said that now please open the Bible and begin reading. Extract all the juicy stories and verses that are Kamasutra-like, or even worse. Do the best you can. Put a good article together. I shall wait for your reply within the next two months. Please reach me on my email once you done with the project. This is my last email to you on SAC dealing with this issue. Before I close and say Good Luck, I must it clear to you: I have no ill feelings against you; rather I admire you. What more can I say?

Job,

Why are you afraid to discuss on the bible in SikhSpectrum.It's a popular site.Millions of readers from Sikh background. It would be an excellent apportunity for you to share the good news to all Sikhs throughout the world. Are you afraid you will be proven wrong on the bible?

Gob Bless

Dear Shri G.B.Singh and Shaun Singh and other esteemed visitors of this blessed website,

I humbly submit that I am prepared to enter the forum of Sikhspectrum boldly because I abide in the Truth. When G.B.Singh posts his views in that website on Kamasutra versus Bible, I will give my views there.

In this forum, GB Singh has given the URL of the Sikhspectrum wherein he has questioned the doctrine of Godhead of the God of the Bible (BG), the doctrine of "slavery" and the various acts of God under the Old Covenant. I am dealing with all the points raised by him, one by one. Today I am posting the following message in this forum.

This is my first post.

Issue No.1

In the previous section on “soul” I mentioned that Bible-based Christianity can be described as a table with four legs and each leg solidly represents the following four Biblical posts: (1) Biblical God, (2) Jesus Christ, (3) Soul, and (4) Heaven. We have already evaluated the issues of heaven and soul in previous debates. Today the issue under consideration is Biblical God (BG).

The question of God is no easy matter to discuss and to figure out what BG is, is even more complicated. On top of that, Christians have further added problems to the already complex issue by injecting “Jesus Christ as God” into the framework of BG. Mind you, not all Christians follow the same doctrines. The evangelical Christians accept Jesus as God (second part of the trinity) whereas many other Christian groups look at Jesus as the “son” of BG, meaning that Jesus is not God, but a son (albeit the only one) of God.

My views:

God is none but the God as revealed through His Word. He can be called the God of the Bible. There is no complex issue when we say Jesus is the God incarnate. All the Christian denominations including the Roman Catholic Church, except the Jehovah Witnesses or a similar other sect do believe in the trinity of God i.e. Father, Son and Holy Spirit. I do not want to discuss the doctrines concerning the trinity of God here.

Issue No.2

Within a short distance from my house, there are four Christian bookstores. Not a single one has the general category of highlighting “God” on the shelves. Why? The answers are vague and evasive. Christians often ask me to read about Jesus because Jesus is “God” and by that process I am told that my question about BG should be answered. For example the following verses are told and retold:

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. [John 3:16] Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. [John 14:6] God is love, [1 John 3:9, 17]

Clearly, Jesus is intimately linked with BG and that to separate them from a Christian perspective is almost impossible. When we hear “God is love” it has a narrow meaning—that is, love of BG is defined within the parameters of Jesus because BG sent Jesus into the world. According to the theology, it is apparent that to go to BG, Jesus is the only way. Understandably, when a Christian talks about “God,” his frame of reference is limited, and he cannot think of BG beyond the confines of the Bible or from Jesus. There is another problem and this is a big one. The BG has revealed himself in the Hebrew Bible (Old Testament) and reading the details of his revelation can throw you off with so many pitfalls. I plan to discuss them and bring them one by one to your attention on the pages of SikhSpectrum.com.


My comments:

The God of the Bible has all the attributes of the God as Creator or Life Giver, Protector and Destroyer by way of judgment. The God of the Bible (BG as referred by GB Singh) is infinite and cannot be defined in human wisdom. He is fully revealed in the Bible. He is also revealed in the Scriptures of the major religions of the world i.e. Judaism, Hinduism, Islam, etc as the God with the above three attributes/functions. The God of the Bible is not only confined to the Bible but also is also beyond eternity. He is beyond time. He is eternal. He is the Alpha and Omega.

Even man, the creature of the God creates (procreates), protects and destroys. Even animals also have the three attributes.


The God whom GB Singh presents does not have the attributes like creation, protection and destruction. Singh appears to refer to some power or some finite being according to his own imagination which is not revealed to the human race or which is not realized by the human race. The frame of reference of the God of the Bible is not limited at all as claimed by Singh. He is not limited to time.


The love of God is not merel defined within the parameters of Jesus Christ because God loved the world first and then He sent His only begotten Son into the world. The love of God came into existence before He sent His son into the world.

Point No.3

I have never come across a Christian who has opened himself to discuss with me the moral and ethical problems of BG as revealed in the Bible. While discussing the BG, I would like to keep Jesus out of the way (as much as possible) mainly to prevent confusion and specifically to hone in on BG without being distracted.

You may ask me why I am referring to “God” as BG? The answer will become evident once you read the entire debate here. You may ask if Guru Nanak approved of BG? I will answer that a bit later.

You may ask: Is the general idea of “God” in the Bible monotheistic or something else? I tend to agree with Professor Regina M. Schwartz, who has described a better term, Monolatry or henotheism, meaning the kind of exclusive allegiance to one deity (that is BG) from a field of many. Read Deuteronomy 28:14.

My views:

I am prepared to discuss with Singh the moral and ethical issues of the Bible but there are no such “moral and ethical problems of the God of the Bible” as revealed in the Bible. The Bible is the moral and ethical code for the human race. Nobody can deny it. God has no such moral and ethical problems with Himself because He is not a human being. Only the man has moral and ethical problems.

I do not want to comment on the views of Professor Regina M. Schwartz as I do not know the same.

The God of the Bible is the living God and not an idol. He has all the attributes of the God as one tries to understand Him through his finite mind. Yes, He wants exclusive allegiance to Him, and not to any idol or the Devil. Even the Sikh Gurus believe in one God. Islam believes in one God. Even Hindu Vedas also speak about one God. If there is one God who is universally acceptable, the human race is not supposed to have the exclusive allegiance to One deity only. The Israelites were forgibben in Deut.28:14 from going "after other gods to serve them". What was wrong in the commandment of God for His people?

Point No.4

Today I will discuss the issue of slavery. The institution of slavery has existed with us for a long time and brought about an untold amount of misery to humans. Only in the 19th and 20th centuries was our human civilization been able to put a ban on this malignant institution. The question you must ask is what does the BG have to say about slavery? Did BG condone slavery? If you think BG outlawed slavery then you are heading for a distressful surprise. Here are some important verses from the Bible—straight from the mouth of BG giving his commandments to his chosen people, the Israelites (Jews):

Exodus 21: 1-27 [Revised Standard Version]

Now these are the ordinances which you shall set before them. When you buy a Hebrew slave, he shall serve six years, and in the seventh he shall go out free, for nothing. If he comes in single, he shall go out single; if he comes in married, then his wife shall go out with him. If his master gives him a wife and she bears him sons or daughters, the wife and her children shall be her master's and he shall go out alone. But if the slave plainly says, 'I love my master, my wife, and my children; I will not go out free,' then his master shall bring him to God, and he shall bring him to the door or the doorpost; and his master shall bore his ear through with an awl; and he shall serve him for life. When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she shall not go out as the male slaves do. If she does not please her master, who has designated her for himself, then he shall let her be redeemed; he shall have no right to sell her to a foreign people, since he has dealt faithlessly with her. If he designates her for his son, he shall deal with her as with a daughter. If he takes another wife to himself, he shall not diminish her food, her clothing, or her marital rights.

And if he does not do these three things for her, she shall go out for nothing, without payment of money. Whoever strikes a man so that he dies shall be put to death. But if he did not lie in wait for him, but God let him fall into his hand, then I will appoint for you a place to which he may flee. But if a man willfully attacks another to kill him treacherously, you shall take him from my altar, that he may die. Whoever strikes his father or his mother shall be put to death. Whoever steals a man, whether he sells him or is found in possession of him, shall be put to death. Whoever curses his father or his mother shall be put to death. When men quarrel and one strikes the other with a stone or with his fist and the man does not die but keeps his bed, then if the man rises again and walks abroad with his staff, he that struck him shall be clear; only he shall pay for the loss of his time, and shall have him thoroughly healed.

When a man strikes his slave, male or female, with a rod and the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. But if the slave survives a day or two, he is not to be punished; for the slave is his money. "When men strive together, and hurt a woman with child, so that there is a miscarriage, and yet no harm follows, the one who hurt her shall be fined, according as the woman's husband shall lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine. If any harm follows, then you shall give life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for burn, wound for wound, stripe for stripe. When a man strikes the eye of his slave, male or female, and destroys it, he shall let the slave go free for the eye's sake.

Leviticus 25:44-46 [RSV]

As for your male and female slaves whom you may have: you may buy male and female slaves from among the nations that are round about you. You may also buy from among the strangers who sojourn with you and their families that are with you, who have been born in your land; and they may be your property.

Deuteronomy 15:12-18 [RSV]

If your brother, a Hebrew man, or a Hebrew woman, is sold to you, he shall serve you six years, and in the seventh year you shall let him go free from you. And when you let him go free from you, you shall not let him go empty-handed; you shall furnish him liberally out of your flock, out of your threshing floor, and out of your wine press; as the LORD your God has blessed you, you shall give to him. You shall remember that you were a slave in the land of Egypt, and the LORD your God redeemed you; therefore I command you this today. But if he says to you, 'I will not go out from you,' because he loves you and your household, since he fares well with you, then you shall take an awl, and thrust it through his ear into the door, and he shall be your bondman for ever. And to your bondwoman you shall do likewise. It shall not seem hard to you, when you let him go free from you; for at half the cost of a hired servant he has served you six years. So the LORD your God will bless you in all that you do.

When I confront Christians with the above passages, often they allege that I got it wrong or they come up with an ingenious excuse that the above verses are from the “God of the Old Testament” and I should dwell upon the “God of the New Testament,” who supposedly preaches love, liberty and compassion. At this moment I ask them: How many “Gods” do you have? The reply is always: one. I believe something terrible has gone wrong with the Christian mind. Just like Hindus, they can’t keep their counting straight. I have combed through the New Testament many times and I can’t find this “God” of the New Testament. Even though some verses in the New Testament are flowery, they are all pointing to the “God of the Old Testament” which is none other than the BG. Even Jesus refers to BG as his father.

My views:

The God of the Bible had intended the system of slavery for our good only. The dictionary meaning of "slave" is : "a person held as property;an object; one who is submissive under domination; one who is submissively devoted; etc.....". Broadly speaking, a slave is a worker who works for his master. It denotes the master-servant relationship. It is nothing but a contract of employment. I cannot employ my son in my own house for doing the household work. I am employing a maid servant in my house after hiring her services for a price. The services of my son are being hired by a software company and my son becomes a slave or a worker for that company. Employment is the back-bone of the economy of a nation, be it communist or capitalist. Except the sovereign God, all the human beings are slaves. A sovereign monarch becomes a slave when dethroned or becomes a slave to his children after retirement. A ruler of a democratic nation is supposed to be a slave to the sovereign will of the people.

The origin of slavery is mentioned in Gen.17:12-13. God gave the following commandment to Abraham:

“He who is eight days old among you shall be circumcised, every male child in your generations, he who is born in your house or bought with money from any stranger who is not your descendant…..”

A man could have either a son born to him or could buy a male child with money from any stranger who was not his descendant. But the male child if he is 8 years old should be circumcised. A man was free to adopt a male child born to a stranger by paying a price for that child. These days also parents without children adopt children. It was a choice given to the descendants of Abraham to buy children from their strangers. In the 21st chapter of Exodus, God said, “If you buy a Hebrew servant, he shall serve six years, and in the seventh he shall go out free and pay nothing. …..” God merely laid down certain instructions regulating the conduct of the slaves and of their masters. Even today the employees work for their employers by way of services. In the houses, many servants work for their masters. God has never given any commandments for ill-treatment of slaves or employees. According to the corrupt or reprobate human mind, slavery means "ill-treatment" or availing the human services without paying adequate compensation. Slavery means, we think in terms of the black people being enslaved by the white people who extract work from the former without paying any compensation after subjecting them to ill-treatment. To my mind, the term "slavery" brings to memory the deprivations and humiliations of the black Negros whom Abraham Lincon set free. Even the Hebrews were given the option of hiring servants from their own race.

The disciples of Jesus called Jesus "Master". This means that the disciples enslaved themselves to the love of their Master. They left everything and became His disciples.

As per Exodus 21: 1-27, the slave could serve his master out of love for life. Let us note that "when a man sells his daughter as a slave, she shall not go out as the male slaves do. If she does not please her master, who has designated her for himself, then he shall let her be redeemed; he shall have no right to sell her to a foreign people, since he has dealt faithlessly with her. If he designates her for his son, he shall deal with her as with a daughter. If he takes another wife to himself, he shall not diminish her food, her clothing, or her marital rights". God of the Bible took care of even the female slaves also. Even if she did not please her master, he should let her be redeemed and should not have any right to sell her to a foreign people. If he had chosen her to be his son's wife, he was supposed to deal with her as with a daughter. Even if he had taken another wife to himself, he should not dimish her food, her clothing or her marital rights. Do you find fault with the God of the Bible in this regard? Please read all the verses quoted by you carefully. God of the Bible gave commandments regulating the conduct of the masters and of their slaves.

As per Leviticus 25:44-46, God commanded the Israelites to buy male and female slaves from among the nations. Today also, the employers go about the whole world in hiring male and female workers for them. God wanted these slaves to be treated properly and to be paid for their services. God heard the cry of the children of Israel and saw the oppression wherewith the Egyptians oppressed them as slaves (Ex.3:9).

Read Deuteronomy 15:12-18, to know how God of the Bible reminded the Israelies "You shall remember that you were a slave in the land of Egypt, and the LORD your God redeemed you; therefore I command you this today..." He gave them commandments how to set free their slaves and to treat them. Do you find fault with the God of the Bible in this regard?

Point No.5:

As to the contents of the New Testament, especially in the four gospel accounts, nowhere could I find Jesus doing away with BG’s commandments of condoning slavery! We know historically that the institution of slavery existed at the time and place where Jesus lived. What is even more distressing is that Paul (another hero of the New Testament) gives out the following teachings to perpetuate slavery and asks the slaves to follow through the dictates of slavery. Paul not only sanctions slavery but equates serving one's master with serving God. This reminds me of Gandhi--giving his sweet sermons to the Untouchables about the virtues of serving the upper castes and thereby pleasing the Hindu gods. Read for yourself:

Ephesians 5: 5-8 [RSV]


Slaves, be obedient to those who are your earthly masters, with fear and trembling, in singleness of heart, as to Christ; not in the way of eye-service, as men-pleasers, but as servants of Christ, doing the will of God from the heart, rendering service with a good will as to the Lord and not to men, knowing that whatever good any one does, he will receive the same again from the Lord, whether he is a slave or free.

Colossians 3: 22-25 [RSV]

Slaves, obey in everything those who are your earthly masters, not with eyeservice, as men-pleasers, but in singleness of heart, fearing the Lord. Whatever your task, work heartily, as serving the Lord and not men, knowing that from the Lord you will receive the inheritance as your reward; you are serving the Lord Christ. For the wrongdoer will be paid back for the wrong he has done, and there is no partiality.

1 Timothy 6: 1-2 [RSV]

Let all who are under the yoke of slavery regard their masters as worthy of all honor, so that the name of God and the teaching may not be defamed. Those who have believing masters must not be disrespectful on the ground that they are brethren; rather they must serve all the better since those who benefit by their service are believers and beloved. Teach and urge these duties.

Titus 2: 9-10 [RSV]

Bid slaves to be submissive to their masters and to give satisfaction in every respect; they are not to be refractory, nor to pilfer, but to show entire and true fidelity, so that in everything they may adorn the doctrine of God our Savior.


Peter, who is another minor hero of the New Testament, agrees with Paul:

1 Peter: 2: 18-19 [RSV]

Servants, [slaves] be submissive to your masters with all respect, not only to the kind and gentle but also to the overbearing. For one is approved if, mindful of God, he endures pain while suffering unjustly. For what credit is it, if when you do wrong and are beaten for it you take it patiently? But if when you do right and suffer for it you take it patiently, you have God's approval. For to this you have been called, because Christ also suffered for you, leaving you an example, that you should follow in his steps.

We need to ask the following questions:

Is this God? Why should we follow the BG? Why hasn’t Jesus Christ repudiated the BG, his father? Why should we take Jesus Christ as our savior whose only purpose is to act as a doorway to the BG? From reading the Bible, one can’t escape the conclusion that BG is someone that needs to be kept away. I wish Jesus had agreed with my conclusions--just like the example of Guru Nanak who had rejected the BG in totality almost five hundred years ago.

There is so much distastefulness about BG in the Bible, and in future we can discuss more if needed. However, today allow me to share with you the subject of “Violence and the Biblical God.” The following account was written and sent to me by C. Dennis McKinsey.

My comments:

If the advice of Shri G.B.Singh is to be followed, then there will be anarchy in the whole world. The Governement servants or the soldiers guarding their nations will not obey their masters. We are all under the yoke of slavery in this world. We have our earthly masters i.e. governments, employers, political leaders, etc. We are all slaves.

Dear Mr. Anbalagan,
Thank you for posting comment # 31. Welcome to the debate. I recommend you to send your this reply (comment #31) to the editor@sikhspectrum.com for others to read.

You stated this:
"I humbly submit that I am prepared to enter the forum of Sikhspectrum boldly because I abide in the Truth. When G.B.Singh posts his views in that website on Kamasutra versus Bible, I will give my views there."

Again welcome on the pages of sikhspectrum.com. I assure you: You will be accorded with due respect. The rules are simple. I conduct that debate with all fairness to every participant. You will be one of those participants including myself. Therefore, first you have to write an article on "KAMASUTRA & THE BIBLE." Send that to me. Similarly other scholars will pitch in their own articles and I will finally put together the entire debate for publication to the editor. After its posting, in case you have some disputes with me or any of the other participants, you are free to write a rebuttal and that will be posted in the feedback section. Any other member of the SAC is also welcomed to respond.

It's really that simple. You have until end of Jan. 07 to submit your article to me. Time is important here. This allows others to write their own views within the prescribed time. Understand I am terribly busy with many other projects and therefore I respect proper management of time. I expect the same from you. We are scheduled for May 07 issue of Sikhspectrum. Again Welcome as my own brother in humanity. Do the best you can. If your article needs clarification or some editing, I will do it or ask you to do it. In the end, the final version of the article is yours and will be posted only with your permission. Again I must remind you: This is an open debate; there is no winner here. We are investigating the Bible from all angles including the angle that you as a believer should bring forth. SAC is free to publish any or all of the debates-- these debates are not copywighted.

One dear servant of God, namely, Jass Singh had posted an excellent article under the title Jesus - "According to Orthodox Historic Biblical Christianity..." in http://www.sikhspectrum.com. Some people responded to his article, questioning the authenticity of the Bible, virgin birth of Jesus, historical evidences concerning the birth, resurrection of Jesus, etc. One Daniel Wright is one of them. I have now dealt with the rebuttal message of Daniel Wright. I humbly request the visitors of SAC to go through my article at the following URL:

http://propheticschool.googlepages.com/word

Please copy and paste the above URL into your browser and read my message. In these last days, we should know how the Word of God is twisted. The Da Vinci Code is one of the works of the Devil.

Job Anbalagan

Hi guys. If you are out to describe the truth, leave elegance to the tailor.
I am from Liberia and learning to write in English, give true I wrote the following sentence: "Ever since fuel prices have been on the rise, I wondered why."

:P Thanks in advance. Barbara.