Which Religion Should You Follow? The Answer Is None!
- By Harmit Jandu
- Published 02/21/2007
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Harmit Jandu
Harmit Jandu was born and raised in a Sikh family and wore a turban. In 1989, he had a powerful encounter with the Lord Jesus Christ at the of age 16 and was baptised with the Holy Spirit in April 1990. Since then, he has been actively involved in ministry both in the UK and India and have seen God do many wonderful miracles and healings. His main ministry focus is to mature the Body of Christ, raise up an army of prophetic believers and manifest God on earth. Harmit lives in the UK.
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I personally do not believe in ‘religion’. I’m not religious but I am spiritual. There is nothing wrong in itself with the word religion, it’s just that what people have made it to be is dangerous and misleading. So in this teaching when I refer to religion I am referring to man-made efforts to reaching God that produce little or no results.Religion is based on ritual and not relationship. Religion is just a list of do’s and don’ts you follow the rules because you have to not because you want to. You follow out off fear and not love. Religion controls but true worship is liberating.
There is a difference between being religious and being spiritual.
In this teaching I will make an attempt not to criticise any particular faith. That is not the purpose. Nor I am attempting to convert anyone. I have no religion to convert you to.
Your conscience was given to you to lead you to God. Your conscience will never lie to you. If you follow your conscience it will show you what is wrong and by default what is right. You cannot bribe your conscience. God uses your conscience. We all have a conscience. We all ought to follow our God given conscience.
I personally have a clean conscience, peace in my heart and mind and do not have a sense of guilt that I carry around that condemns me. I have a relationship with the Creator and I feel so free. I don’t walk around with masses of questions and a permanent question mark over my head. I could be described as the happiest person I know!
Intellect and reasoning verses the heart
God cannot be known by human intellect and reasoning, He deals with the heart and that is how He is known.
You know people are taking the intellectual route when they use words like ‘debate’, ‘refute’ ‘convert’
People who want to debate and argue about which religion is right will come to know the conclusion and if they do come to a conclusion it will be a biased view, usually based on which religion they were born into. Obviously they were born into the right one and everyone else was born into the wrong one, so says everyone.
Sometimes you can win an argument and yet still be the loser. You do not have to be a scholar or highly educated to know God. If you did, then what happens to the person who cannot read and write?
Whenever humans are involved, there will be mistakes and errors. Every thing humans do will always have mistakes. Finding errors in other people, religious books and followers is not the way to God. The way to God is to look at your errors and mistakes. The best selling book in the world says, ‘Everyone is right in their own eyes.’
But the person who seeks truth from the heart will come to know Truth if they remain committed. God cannot be found, He is not lost that He needs to be found, people are lost and God finds them. God looks for a heart that wants truth.
To know God or knowing about Him
God doesn’t want you just to know about Him. He wants to know you personally.
Many people know about God but they do not actually know Him. It is like a person who has a famous person they admire and idolise, maybe a movie star. They read a lot about the person and collect posters and copies of the films that movie star has made. Their room is full of items related to that movie star and they adore the movie star. In fact they love the movie start so much, they even know the movie star's date of birth, place of birth and many other facts about them.
Then one day they see that particular movie start down the road and run up to them excited. After explaining excitedly to the movie star how much they love them and have everything about them, the movie star responds, “Who are you? I don’t even know who you are?” And then they call security to remove the obsessive fan.
You see the person knew lots about the movie start but they did not actually know them. They had no relationship with them. It is in this distant way that many follow God. God is not into religion - He is into relationship with His creation. God is not a religion He is a personal being and He can be personally known.
The things that matter
If you want religion and ritual, then pick from the thousands of religions around. But if you want peace, purpose, a clean conscience and overall life with a sense of wholeness, then only Truth can give that.
I personally have peace. Not natural peace that comes and goes but a deep sense of being worry free. You cannot have faith and worry at the same time.
I have a clean conscience. This means I do not have to carry a heavy load of awareness of my sins on my head. I know I am totally forgiven and I actually experience that forgiveness.
I have purpose. Not only is my life today good but my future looks even better!
I have a sense of wholeness like nothing is missing. I feel complete and am not searching for more.
This is the real result of having Truth. Truth is like a seed, when planted it produces a certain type of fruit. If you are depressed, hopeless, confused and loaded with a sense of guilt and awareness of your sinfulness then what do you have? Truth or just ritualistic religion?
If God were to write a book
If God were to write a book, what would you expect of it?
1. Our origin and future. Deal with where we came from and where we are going.
2. Explain where sin and evil came from.
3. Contain amazing contents and supernatural events.
4. Teach a high moral standard.
5. Be the best selling book ever.
6. Be available to more people than any other book. (The Bible is a spiritual book that has been translated into over 2,000 languages, at the time of this teaching, work is underway to translate it into 1941 new languages. 2286 other languages are yet to be started on yet. No other books comes even close to being so widely available).
Conclusion
Are you easily offended when people attack your beliefs? This is a sign that you are walking in pride. People get offended when their pride is attacked. Religious people get offended easily.
That is why I am never offended when people attack my beliefs. Even if they burnt the spiritual book I look to or cursed the one I serve as Creator I am not offended. Truth cannot be damaged by being attacked.. Truth does not need defending, it speaks for itself. Truth is embedded in our conscience.
However, many try to do mental gymnastics and force themselves to believe something that their conscience tells them is wrong. Our own minds can reason and convince us in part that we are right when our conscience tells us we are wrong.
Your conscience speaks volumes to you about your sinfulness and the hypocrisy you see around you. Are you after Truth? Are you willing to do anything for the Truth? Or would you rather please people and deceive yourself.
There was a man that lived in Africa that went in search for diamonds. He travelled all over the world searching and digging for diamonds. From age 20 to 75 he searched but did not find any…then he died a poor man. After his death, the land he originally lived on was dug up and they found masses of diamonds. The diamonds were right under his feet yet he searched the world for them.
Which religion should you follow? The answer is none!
Which God should you pray to? The One that created everything. Just ask the Creator to reveal Himself to you and He will. God will direct you to the Truth and this Truth is found in the person of Jesus Christ.
Jesus said, "I am the Way and the Truth and the Life. No one comes to the Father except through Me . . . then you will know the Truth, and the Truth will set you free." John 8:32, John 14:6.
Do you ever feel a sense of hopelessness? Does life seem empty? Do you find yourself doing wrong things and the more you try to stop them, the more you do it. Then you need to come to the Eternal Creator and ask for the Truth to be revealed to you.
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Comment #1 (Posted by GB Singh)
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Pastor Harmit Jandu wrote an interesting article recommending no religion. That's intriguing considering that the pastor is himself immersed in a "wild religion" that effuses magic through and through. Where is the true spirituality in the context of Bible's magical and x-rated theology?
Pastor do you still speak in tougues?
Comment #2 (Posted by Harminder Dhillon)
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Harmit, what you wrote is cuttingly convincing and piercingly true. These days religion peddlers have accumulated a bad name for themselves. People want reality. People want real examples. People want real truth. You have hit the nail spot on. The key is relationship with God and man exemplified in the life of Jesus.
Comment #3 (Posted by Parminder Puri)
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Harmit has written...
"Truth cannot be damaged by being attacked.. Truth does not need defending, it speaks for itself." This single statement SPEAKS VOLUMES and sums up this beautiful article and Harmit's close relationship with God.
You are right brother...the love of our Saviour is to be experienced - to be believed. Reading your article reminded me of Gulshan Esther (The Torn Veil), how she found God. She wanted from the depths of her heart to find the true God and the Creator finally revealed Himself to her.
God bless you and your ministry dear brother!
Jesus be with you. Amen.
your brother in Christ
Parminder
your brother in Christ
Comment #4 (Posted by Parminder Puri)
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Harmit has written...
"Truth cannot be damaged by being attacked.. Truth does not need defending, it speaks for itself."
This single statement SPEAKS VOLUMES about Harmit's faith and just about sums up this article. It also reflects the intimate relationship Harmit enjoys with his Saviour.
People can say what they want to, but truth needs to justification.
Religion can save NO ONE. God never created any religion.
Your experience reminds me of Gulshan Esther (The Torn Veil). Her religion also could not save her, till the Creator revealed Himself to her.
God bless you dear brother.
Comment #5 (Posted by Indu Shanmugam)
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Great article. Goes right down to the basics of Christianity, which is relationship not religion. It is true that true believers take persecution better than the world religions. Only if more believers understood this.
Comment #6 (Posted by Shaun Singh)
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Seems you were brainwashed when you were a child. That show's how desperate christian missionaries these days.Seing Jesus is pretty normal with evangilical christian these days! When will the truth be spoken?
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Comment #6 (Posted by Shaun Singh)
Seems you were brainwashed when you were a child. That show's how desperate christian missionaries these days.Seing Jesus is pretty normal with evangilical christian these days! When will the
truth be spoken?
Dear Brother Shaun singh You said When will the truth be spoken?. First of all you don't know what truth is or who is truth. second Those who are sharing their life testimony they are speaking the truth but you are not getting it or you are not believing it. Because believing is receiving.
Seeing Jesus is not a stories and this is not only christian those who have seen Jesus. In April 1994 Jesus came to me when I was in Dubai. At that time I didn't know about Jesus I was follower of Sikh religion almost every day I used search about the Lord from the Word God. But intresting point was that I didn't know that who is Lord because we use to think that it is mentioned about God and we have to search about God. Later on now Irealized that how can we search for God, God is not Lost its we who are lost. then Why Guru's are saying to search for the Lord. There is a lot I have to share but I don't have time. Dear Brother I'm not trying to offend you, I,m sharing what I have learned from God through His Spirit.
God Bless you.
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Comment #8 (Posted by Shaun Singh)
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Dear Harnam,
When will Jesus be back. I am sure you know by now since you have met Jesus.
I want to prepare a party for JC.Do let me know.It's amazing so many people claimed they have talk to Jesus but when you ask them when is Jesus coming back they have no idea.Thus tell us the truth for once.
Comment #9 (Posted by H Singh)
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For coming back of Jesus Christ.
Even Tenth Guru said that raj karega Khalsa. Johan the Baptist said repent that the kingdom of God is at hand, again Jesus said repent that kingdom of God is at hand, First of all check the defination of Khalsa in english and also check the defination of Christ in other language. No. 2, Jesus said, in mathew that when the good news (Gospel) will reach to the whole word then it means that end time has come. In another place when His Deciples asked when will the time will come, He said no one knows accept my Father (Heavenly Father or you can say God). Please read the Bible to learn about the truth and don't waste your time asking questions from peoples. Bible has all the answers of your questions only when you read you will get the answers. And also open your heart for God that He can reveal himself to you. Let God to give you the new heart, Because you cannot sow a seed on a stone, same way God cannot put His Words on the stoney heart. I'm not writting it from my own thoughts everything what i said it is written in the Bible very clearly. God said, I will give them an undivided heart and put a new spirit in them; I will remove from them their heart of stone and give them a heart of flesh. (Ezekiel 11:19 Holy Bible). and in New testment Jesus Shared a lot about the hearts. It is on you how you are going to take it. Beleiving is receiving,
if you beleive you will recieve, if you dout you will go without.
Dear Brothers and Sisters Jesus said all scripture talking about me He was not saying about old testment He was talking about all the religion Books. God Bless you all
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Comment #10 (Posted by Harpreet Singh Ubhi)
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Mr.Harmit Jandu,
You are big blot on Sikh and Ramgarhia community because you betrayed the great Panth. You are worse then Moguls. But still I say, "WAHEGURU BLESS YOU". And one day you realise your mistakes. Could you please explain me what Jesus did? To me nothing. He was a ordinary man but I don't know why all christian community make him son of God. For me he did nothing miraculous but it was just a misorganised family with no family values. How somebody can born to a virgin woman? Is'nt it something stupid?
WAHEGURU BLESS YOU ALL.
And I wish you will come back to Sikhism fold one day. I am optimistic.
Comment #11 (Posted by parminder)
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Dear Shaun,
You can say what you wish to but
"truth needs NO justification"
bless you.
Comment #12 (Posted by Shaun Singh)
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Dear H Singh,
You did not answer my question. When you meet Jesus again or talk to him, ask him when and the time he is coming back.Or if you prefer let's do a 3 way conference call.
Comment #13 (Posted by Shaun Singh)
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" Truth does not need Justification". Well Said.We are all for the truth. Are u really really for the truth?. Did you not lie when you mention ,"there is Jesus References in The Guru Granth Sahib".
Thus , tell us the TRUTH .
May the truth Bless You someday
Comment #14 (Posted by Parminder Puri)
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Shaun...
I did not lie when i said there are Jesus references in the granth. You just have to delve more deeper.
shree asket jagat ke ISA (Jesus)
Pun raksha ka kaata seesa
(Who is that ISA who crushed Satan and became victorious over Satan & his deeds?)ISA is a clear reference to Jesus, if u know Punjabi. U may argue and say ISA does not refer to Jesus, if u say this i wd not be surprised at all.
jai jai kaar japo jag deese
bal bal jaayi prabhu apne ISE(Jesus)
tis bin duja awar na dise
parmeshwar ditta banna (son)
dukh rog da dera phanna
(Which is the Son that God gave whose name ends curses, struggles etc. Who claimed to be the son of God? Any Guru or Jesus?)
paap khandan prabhu tera naam
pichle awgun baksh lai
prabhu aage marg paave
(which Guru has promised forgiveness of sins? Name one from Granth. i am not ridiculing any Guru mind you but none of them has promised forgiveness of sins. They have themselves confessed then to be sinners. U know that its only Jesus)
Shaun the problem is your knowledge of Sikhism is limited. I can quote more but whats the use. There is no end to this debate. You will not understand! A former Baptist did u say? U were never a true Christian my friend. Else you wd have recognized the true saviour by now.
As Harmit points out there is no religion. Only one saviour who came to save the world. we have experienced this in our lives. so where does the question of being brainwashed comes here? u only have one excuse, that we all are brainwashed by Christian missionaries. may be it has happened where u grew up my friend, not where we grew up!
Comment #15 (Posted by Kevin)
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Dear Mr Parmendar,
I did an extensive search through online GGS, but was unable to find the phrases above. Can you provide the page numbers.
Oh..yes another thing, GGS is not written in punjabi by it's actually Gurmurki.Brother Shaun is probably proficeint in Gurmurki instead of Punjabi.
I did read the Granth Sahib (English translation) but did not come across any Jesus reference.
Did you get these phrases from some christian missionary cook books.
However the Granth does mention various lord names like ALLAH,Ram etc which indicates there is only one God but with many names.
You should not be taken aback when someone tells you are not a former sikh since you have no knowledge on sikhism. No one is born a sikh,christian etc, people just choose their paths in later path of their lifes.
Just move on brother with your new faith and grow beautifully with your new found peace
Could you
Comment #16 (Posted by GB Singh)
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In comment #14, it would be nice if Parminder can cite the page number from Guru Granth. Also it might be handy if he can provide us the reference or source from where Parminder himself got that quote or information.
Comment #17 (Posted by Shaun Singh)
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Dear Parmendar,
Well,GGS language is not punjabi by Gurmurki.You are absolutely correct when you mention i do not know punjabi.Punjabi is not my mother tongue, but i have learn Gurmurki very well. Seems you have been duped by christian missionaries.You are using Christian missionaries twisted words to gain some gullible so call non -believers, this is nothing new.
Comment #18 (Posted by mrs Grant-canning)
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This has confirmed a lot of what I feel in my heart. Thank you for this affirming article.
Comment #19 (Posted by Parminder Puri)
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Dear GB Singh Ji,
I am posting this just because you have asked me to. I love you and respect you.
Enough accusations have been hurled in our personal e mails with Shaun,Jenny etc. on this but i am giving references nevertheless (Br Hazoor Singh had been kind enough to send this in a response to Shaun and others, when they asked for the source of verses quoted. i do not wish to take this argument further with them.
shree asket jagat ke ISA (Jesus)
Pun raksha ka kaata seesa
Dasam Granth Sahib ( P 375)
and there is a lot of more in Dasam Granth Sahib
for example: When Guru Gobind Singh said adh anth ekai awtara, soyee Guru samjio Hamara.
jai jai kaar japo jag deese
bal bal jaayi prabhu apne ISE(Jesus)
tis bin duja awar na dise ( GGS P 1072)
Warm regards & blessings to you.
Comment #20 (Posted by GB Singh)
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Dear Parminder,
Thank you for the kind words. Anytime you say "Granth" it has meant Guru Granth Sahib, which is the only authentic Sikh scripture.
"Dasam Granth" (DG) is a controversial literature largely because it was compiled by the officials of the East India Company. It's a developing research and you just have to wait until the complete research is released. As far as your quote referring to Jesus in DG, that is also in dispute. I recall putting something to that effect on Sikhspectrum.com. If you have an interest in that direction, let me know and I will get you in touch with the right person.
Comment #21 (Posted by Shaun Singh)
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GB,
We have verified those pages.P375 Dasam Granth and Page 1072 GGS,There is no reference of Jesus.
Comment #22 (Posted by GB Singh)
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Thank you Shaun.
Comment #23 (Posted by Mr Sidhu)
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I am watching the debates with amusement here. I am sikh myself but i belive in one everloving God. But what i want to tell Sahun and GB Singh is that if they have really embraced Sikhism, then congratulations to them. But but but...the verses Mr Parminder has referred to do exist in the Gutkas. Have one of you ever visited Harminder Sahib and spoken to the Prabhandak Committee members? Even my friends, some of them Hindus have studied from the same Sikh Scriptures and the verses pointed here are present in all old Gutkas. So how can you people say that these are not there. Please come to India and talk to some old people who have spent years meditating Guru Granth Sahib.
I am ok with your debate but this seems foolishness. Come to India for more proof, don't just accuse others. To each one his faith. Be respectful to all, but when you embrace a religion, do not give us Sikhs the nonsense that some of the scriptures mentioned are not be found!
I have no comments to Harmit's testimony. he has found peace, so let him be.
But i have a request to all of you, whether Christians or converts or sikhs, please collect your facts properly first. I find it insulting to my when words said by my Gurus are said to be false! Mr Shaun and GB, please come to India to seek the truth, do not feed people with online Granth sahib.
If you people are so passionate about spreading Sikhism, please first tell thousands of Punjabi youths and elders to keep back their hair and the 5 kakkas, given by Guru Gobind Singh. You say Christian missionaries do this and that. Are you trying to reach out to Indians, people of Indian origins and asking them not to cut of their hair, or trim their beards. They do all that but still say they love their Gurus, how can a perosn who loves his Guru disobey him. Its like saying, God - what you said is passe, now the times have changed!
Please talk some sense into Sikh people who havent kept the 5 K's of their Gurus. This si what you should be focussing on. Start in Canada, USA if you want to. Focus on bringing back the essence of Sikhi. Can you do this in Gurdwaras in UK, India, Us etc. Can you talk to youths in open and ask them not to disobey their Gurus? Why focus so much on healing etc? This is nonsense to me. So pleas ebe the real ambassadors of Guru Nanak, Guru Gobind and start off first in US colleges, pubs, discos where punjabi youths have all cut their hair, beards etc. That would be something if you can bring them back to their roots. And please get good authentic copies of Granth Sahib from Harminder Sahib.
Let Christians do whatever they want, you concentrate on your mission.
Comment #24 (Posted by H Singh)
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There Is but you are looking at man made translations. You have to ask God for His Spirit, Understanding, knowledge and wisdom. And also I asked Some questions but I didn,t rcvd answers I want them here, not directly to me.
Now I have some questions :-
Where in GGS it is written that all roads go to heaven.
And Sikh Religion or God created all religions
Yes there are in some places it is mentioned Hindu or Muslems but its not for religion. these are just names.
Please if you found them then inform us too. I am not asking this to offend but for my own knowledge, because since from last 3 years I am searching fom Bible, GGS but I could not found
What will happen if new and latest modren religion will start. As most of the sikh, they say that our religion is new and modren. Will they convert in new religion.
Because we beleive in word of God doesn't matter if it is from bible or GGS. We don't beleive in man made words.
If Man made words are acceptable then why these Holy books are written.
And for second comming of Christ, we can only say that read bible prophsies about Israel, search the history of Jerusalem. Keep watching on Jerusalem and middle east and also you should beleive what its written. If you don't beleive then don't ask question too. Don't waste yours and others time by arguing as it is written in GGS also that people argue without knowing the truth. Now I will not give you page numbers. you have to search it your self and yes I can give you a hint. Guru Nanak said this.
and in Dasam Granth Guru Gobind Singh said it.
And one last think and after this you will not hear any thing from us.
We share our testimony not to convert some one. we share our testimony to help people for incresing in their faith, what God did for us can also do for you. Yes he did for us through Jesus. so we have to tell the truth. And if you read Jeevan Sakhi of Guru Nanak Dev Ji and Guru Gobind Singh Ji. Muslims were also followed them but their religion didn't changed their name didn't changed. Because I met some of their desendents most of them they live in Pakistan. when we followed Jesus How come you say that our religion got changed or we convert our religion?
Thank You and God Bless you.
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Comment #25 (Posted by GB Singh)
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Dear Mr. Sidhu (comment # 23):
Thank you for your input and for expressing your other valid concerns. If you have a particular Gutka that references Jesus' name then please provide us the proper reference and some relevant lines from that Gutka.
It seems to me you are interested in what Christians are doing. Otherwise you wouldn't be reading SAC.
Comment #26 (Posted by Mr Sidhu)
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Mr GB Singh.
It seems your buddies are more interested in accusations rather than accepting the truth. So come to India and see the truth for your self. People who do not believe in Dasam Granth are not even worth responding! To me you all seem like mere troublemakers. At least the Christians are doing their bit, whether they are converts. You guys are not doing anything except cook stories and luring people into false Sikhi doctrines. Is that all you can do? Shame on you people who call themselves Sikhs but do not have knowledge of their own scriptures. I have nothing to say to such people. Why clarify? Come to Harminder Sahib, use your resources and get hold of the real Granth Sahib Ji. It doesnt concern me whether Jesus is mentioned in the scriptures or not. What angers me is that those verses are there in our Holy Book yet you have brainwashed people into believing the negative. To me you seem to be a part of the sect who are deleting certain verses from our Holy Book for their own gain. Shame on you!
Comment #27 (Posted by Dr Sanjay)
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To retain foreign passports and maintain life in the western countries many mad Sikhs are becoming Christians. Sikhs are Generally considered little mad! This is not love of Christ but that of love for gold! All of you couldn't be devout Sikhs like your rabid and virulent overseer protector Job Abanalagan claims in all his parading of converts. He is a baiter. Dear Ex Hindus what is being passed of as Christianity and spirituality is hardly that. If you live long enough and reassess your new found faith you shall find more of misleading, debauchery and ill motivation rather than any genuine spirituality. A lot of brain washing. Most Christian missions especially the protestant ones are misleading. Roman Catholic ones are slightly better. If this was really about GOD this JOB ABANALAGAN wouldn't be parading the converts like SOUVENIRS. Spirituality is different there is no ulterior intention in spirituality. All protestant web site stink of Ulterior intention. They are intersted in INDIA BASHING and HINDU BASHING. And Why would one want to do that? For obvious reasons. This is part of a global strategy to collect all Anti India people, Use them to hit India and Hindus. Make Spies out of them. Make them act against their own motherland, the land of their origin. This web site is more about India hating and Hindu hating and not at all about Christ love. Any of you who are naive and are reading this please back out of this sewage called as protestant Christianity. These are all Spies against India
Dr Sanjay
Comment #28 (Posted by Shaun Singh)
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Response to comment # 24.
See response below to your questions..
I have some questions from those who are sikh or those who call themselves a convert sikh from Christianity.
Hozoor>Where in GGS it is written that all roads go to heaven.
Shaun >
"Exclusivity in Religion goes against the grain and yet many religions and their followers claim that theirs is the only true religion.Exclusivity is common in Christianity,Islam,Judaism and Hindusism.Sikhism does not claim such monopolies becaused monoploies invariably end up in confrontation and slanging matches. They produce inly self-righteous and intolerant snobs.Sikhism teaches that exclusivity in the most damaging feature in any religion.
Sikhism teaches," The world is going up in flames O lord-shower it with Your Mercy,and deliver it from sin through whichever door(religion) humanity approaches.(AGGS p 853).
Almost all religions aspire for salvation(Nirvana) and claim that it is posibble only through their particular religion. Sikhism declares,"I aspire for neither worldly pleasures nor do I crave for salvation,I crave for the love for the of the lord's feet(AGGS p534).
The aim of Guru Nanak;s message is stated as follows:"To live the life truthfully (sachiara) and to rent asunder the wall of illusion that separate us from God(AGGS P1).
In sikhi God is a loving God which loves all including the atheist since all his children or part of him.
Salvation can be acheive by all irregardless of with religion you follow or being an atheist.
Salvation is two pronged. First it is Freedom from Fear,oppression,social slavery and political tyranny"Fear not and frighten no one"(AGGS p 1427) and second,"freedom from the entanglement of sex,anger,greed,undue attachment,mammon and ego".
Guru nanak also tied up salvation with social service and wrote,"You have an honourable seat in court of God only if you perform social service in this world "(AGGS p26).Commitment to such social service must be voluntary by anyone irregardless of a person religion or belief systems.
The stumbling block in the way of spiritual salvation is man's ego or self-assertion.
" I see the world on fire because of ego that keeps it away from common good"(AGGS P651) and hence away from salvation.
Hozoor >And Sikh Religion or God created all religions
Please if you found them then forward to us also.
< God did not create any religions only human ego created religions.
Guru Nanak's message was clear to the masses in Northern India when he mention" There is no Muhammendans and Hindus,we are all children of god"
What will happen if new and latest modren religion will start. As most of the sikh, they say that our religion is new and modren. Will they convert in new religion.
< Sikhi is a way of life and not a religion.The message in sikhi not new in but existed in the beginning when life started ,You need to read the mool mantra. It indicates true at the beginning and true currently. The Guru's was preaching this message through the vibration of the lord.The lord send his messengers from time to time to remind them of the truth.For example ,the Guru's sceince knowlegde was mind boggling,in the granth there is words like expanding universes,millions of planets,galaxies,solar systems,moons and there are many earths(indicating we are now alone).
There is verses describing how water is form,pollination,life within life,life within plants, fire etc.How did the Guru's know all these.Well they were in direct communication with the lord.What is being communicated to Guru Nanak was true at his time,true at the beginning and true currently.The truth was ever there from the beginning.
Guru Nanak preaches that a man is judged by the nobleness of his/her character and not by labels of religion.Therefore nobody should be converted under pressure or coercion.
Today's scientific mind would only approve the acceptance of any idea after carefull analysis and testing. Most world religion preach that acceptance of a religion doe not admit verification and questioning but sikhism preaches through satisfaction before accepting a religion. The Guru Says"First examine the merchandise carefully,and only then,make the deal"(AGGS p1410)
Hozoor>Because we beleive in word of God doesn't matter if it is from bible or GGS. We don't beleive in man made words. Like yours.
If Man made words are acceptable then why these Holy books are written.
Shaun> Don't understand the question.
We have many questions on the bible which will make you think very hard but we shall not go there.
Shaun Hardford Singh
Comment #29 (Posted by Kevin)
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Dear Mr Sidhu,
I have checked personally the SPGC dasam granth and GGS,and found no reference of Jesus in these books.
I HAVE do defend GB and Shaun here, since they are only defending the truths.I have refered these quotes to many of my sikh freinds ,they have verified there is no Jesus reference.
Are u sure you are a sikh or a pretender of Sikh.?
I think you are the only one who can answer that question.
Just checked www.sikhnet.com,and go though the GGS and Dasam Granth pages.These books are sanction by SPGC
As for the sikhs youth not following Guru's intructions that's their loss,Christian youths are also doing the same.What are you doing to help them.Why have many testimonials when you are not focusing on the real problem like WORLD PEACE.
I was in Phuket for a holiday last month. There were 30 to 50 thousands christian youths DWELLING in Sin.
Well,let focus on the real problems.
1)Why do christian missionary emphasise Jesus the saviour is noted in all the major religions.?
This seems like a similar trend, Jesus is in Gita,Jesus is in the Granth,Jesus is in the Koran and he tells you to abandon ISLAM.Seems to familiar right.
2)I have not seen SAC doing anything productive like serving others in orphanage,serving the poor or help build bridges with people of other faith.
However, we have seen otherwise from the Sikh community.
Let be TRUTHFUL here, all faiths has their problems but what TRUE sikhs is helping others out there eventhough their numbers are so low.
Kevin
Comment #30 (Posted by Susan)
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Truth is that only Jesus is Lord. All Hindus, Muslims, Sikhs, Buddhists are destined for hell if they do not acknowledge Jesus as their Saviour. What is a Hindu? Someone who will worship anything and everything under the sun. All Christians will also not make it to heaven either. Only true followers of Jesus will make it.
These are end times and Satanic religions are bound to feel the pinch. To all you Christians who are converst to Sikhsim , Hinduism etc, good luck on your journey to hell & keep on worshipping pagan Gods. Mohammed was Satan himself. Sikh Gurus, Gita, Vedas everything under the sun points to Jesus as Saviour. So why does this truth hurt you guys? Its bound to i guess... Still there is time, open your eyes. Satan is using all these people against Jesus, so go on barking guys, it ain't gonna change the truth.
Comment #31 (Posted by Shaun Singh)
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Dear Susan,
Yes,all Sikhs,hindus,muslims,buddhist,bahais,zoras..
will be going to hell. Heaven is reserved only for christians like Susan is included.
What about our pets, where do they go.?
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Please visit the following website. to know when Jesus is coming
if after this you don't want to beleive then only God help you peoples. http://www.amazingbible.org/
Comment #33 (Posted by GB Singh)
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Dear Dr. Sanjay, (comment # 26)
Tell us what kind of a doctor are you? You used the word "mad" without elaborating on it. You see this word "mad" can be used in many different settings. For example:
1. GB Singh gets "mad" when he finds out that Dr. Sanjay drinks his own urine!
2. Singh gets "mad" unnecessarily upon finding Sanjay munching on dow-dung or sipping cow's urine. This list can go on for a while. Dr Sanjay I hope you know the details of Hinduism.
Could you throw some light upon yourself? If you do not drink or munch above mentioned by-products, would you please tell us why not? My comments are not intented to make fun of you. It is your strangely worded comments that invited my inquiry.
Comment #34 (Posted by Parminder Puri)
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To comment no 27.
Dr Sanjay.
1) I feel seriously you need to and see a doctor!
2) To label sikhs as mad, coming from an educated person like you does surprise me, but it reeks of your immaturity. Loud and clear.
3) At least the Christians and Sikhs are doing their bit. What do you Hindus do? Worship anything and everything and call it as God!!??
4) What have your Gods and Goddesses given you?
Do they promise you salvation? Do they ever give you peace? What goes on in Hindu temples? Your priests won't even talk 2 a person unless he is loaded with money.
5) Do you guys worship one God? I am sure you have even forgotten His existence! You guys are too busy with your mythical Gods and Godesses.
6) What does your Hindu political organizations do to promote mankind and humanity? I mean except create trouble, what good have they done for mankind?
7) Dr Sanjay - i am a convert from Sikhism, yes Jesus saved me and my family and similar are the experiences of many Hindu, sikh, muslim families. The transformation that we people have felt in our lives is to be seen. So according to you, all of us have been brainwashed? None of us have been lured by foreign missionaries i assure you of that dear sir. How easy it is to label everything on foreign missionaries! Sure takes the guilt off your activist organizations!!
9) Reading your comments makes me feel spirituality and God are far from your mind. You talk of spies, and all these Christians being anti-india etc etc. To me you seem more like a journalist and a trouble making activisit. Religion is far from your mind.
10) You call Sikhs mad but it is the same Sikhs who offer non stop langars, free medicines to everyone - read EVERYONE. What do your temples offer sir, if i may ask, except promote casteism. Would you and your Hindu scribes sit down and have a meal with low caste people?
Sikhs DO NOT mind that, all are welcome in Guru's Sangat. I am sure you have been to Bangla Sahib/Golden Temple. If you havent, go pay a visit. And see for your self. I have seen how low caste people are shooed away in temples. Its an open secret dear doctor.
11) Daily reports of tortures on low caste women are a common occurence, in villages where Brahminism still prevails. First please learn to treat all as equal, since God created all in His own image. But this must be news to you I am sure!
A pity Doctor sahib, all this escapes your attention.
May God open your eyes to truth.
Comment #35 (Posted by Parminder)
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Dear Shaun...
Inspite of ourselves, i really have to laugh at the last part of your comment to Susan...what about our pets, where do they go....hee hee hee, that was real funny buddy. Keep up the good humor! :-)
Comment #36 (Posted by Shaun Singh)
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Parmendar,
Excellence response to Dr Sanjay.Well Said and Good Job.
Comment #37 (Posted by Parminder Puri)
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To comment no 27 :
Dr Sanjay says about Br Job Anbalagan -
"If this was really about GOD this JOB ABANALAGAN wouldn't be parading the converts like SOUVENIRS."
1) First of all Dr Sanjay, Br Job doesnt parade converts, as you seem to think so. He encourages them to keep up the faith. Have you read his comments with an open mind? Br Job, a learned and annointed man, responds with sound 'reasoning and logic' - which i am sure are words alien to your closed mind. I have met him and he is a humble man who the Lord with selfless interest.
2) Dr Sanjay - Where have you suddenly disappeared? I would like you to respond to GB Singh's comment.
Dear Doctor, what do you have to say about that? Any answers? If you have , please come out in open and lets debate logically, rather than throwing allegations and calling others mad.
Yes GB Singh is right, what does 'mad' mean in your dictionary? We are eager to hear.
If you have made certain comments, be bold now to come out and defend them. Don't go in hiding.
3) Thanks Br Shaun for ur comment, i wonder where dear doctor has suddenly disappeared!
Knock knock Dr Sanjay...where are you? :-)
Comment #38 (Posted by Gabe)
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I feel really sad reading comments about ''forced conversions'' etc..conversion is of the mind, and if they have been convinced to change their religion they will go back to their old ways...why is everyone so upset about that? Europeans and Americans and not upset about hindus gurus using Yoga,occult to gain converts in the west...the only one afraid to compete is the one afraid that the competition is superior...here's what an indian intellectual has to say what is real conversion and why it so demonised
http://www.vishalmangalwadi.com/convdeb.htm
Comment #39 (Posted by Shaun Singh)
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Dear Gabe,
Happiness and peace is a person birthright and a person is free to choose it's chosen path. Why do you think yoga is an occult? Yoga is a form or exercise. Is basketball,hockey or running is a form of occult?
There are also many writings of reasons why one should leave christianity. It's a freedom of expression we call it.However we would not include any link to counter your link since there will be no end to this discussion.
Comment #40 (Posted by komalpreet kaur)
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this articale is MESSED UP.by doning this your making everyone think that religions.well i don't care about this because I AM PROUD OF WHO I AM AND THAT IS A SIKH.
Comment #41 (Posted by A. S. Mathew)
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Religious frictions have caused
badblood and bloodshed. I never
will be identified with any particular Christian denomination
but very openly tells that Jesus
Christ has given me joy, hope and
purpose in life. The gentiles called
the followers of Christ " Christians"
in Antioch for the first time. Jesus
never called His followers " Christians" but generally addressed them as brethren.
Jesus will be tormented to see the
modern form of denominationalism
and politics in the Church world.
I am very proud to say that Jesus
is my Lord and see the believers
in Christ as my brethren, whether
they belong to any denomination
anywhere in the world.
Comment #42 (Posted by BAWA SINGH)
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so far everything is going very good and it is very healthy article with healthy comments, and i would like to say everyone please come with your comments on all topics. Because other people enjoying it.
Comment #43 (Posted by Dayakar)
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Hi!
Many people expressed their views,it seems nice.... It's seems nice to see the testimonial of Harmit.
I want to express my view on truth..... why we have to accept jesus as our saviour?
For this i like to say one thing... as per vedas for all sins a blood having no sins should give sacrifice... through that blood only our sins are cleansed..... I believe this verses in vedas.... so when i compare this verse with jesus life... it is absolutely perfectly matched...because we can't find any mistakes in jesus.... even though on the cross he pleded the father as "the things what they are doing they don't know..please forgive them....." some great qualities like forgiveness,love one another,sacrifice are practically impemented in our life also...and the perfect example of jesus life... is the way we got independence..and the Mahatma Gandhi followed the principles of Jesus itself.... What Gandhi said... if anyone slap on your face..show the other side of it... it is said by jesus... he followed......and now Mahatma Gandhi became the Father of the nation.... and one more thing in bible mentioned the principles of god those who follow their works will remain ever....
for any disease like cancer,aids etc... there is a medicine... in the same way for sins the only medicine is cleansing our sins with jesus... just pray.. I am sinner O LORD... please forgive my sins... and give me the new life by cleansing my sins with your blood....
PRAISE THE LORD...
Comment #44 (Posted by Moni)
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Dear Mr. Jandu,
I think your article is interesting. However, I do believe that religion does produce results, and I do believe that God is very personable, merciful, and loveing. And He desires a personal relationship with each and everyone of us. The Christian beliefs are given to us from Christ, he taught the disciples how to baptize, pray, heal, etc. How can these rituals be purely man-made, when they came from Christ Himself? My particular sect of Christianity, Coptic Orthodox, is one of the oldest sects in the world. We do have miracles happening in our church ( I mean REAL miracles-apparitions, exorcisms, healings, religious visions). I am not trying to push my beliefs on you, but I am encouraging you to open your mind a little. These traditions, rituals, beliefs in our church were those handed down from Christ to the disciples-to us. All these together help us to have a personal relationship with God
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