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<channel><title><![CDATA[South Asian Connection - Portal for South Asian Christians - Comments for article: Jesus Christ - Reason for the Season]]></title><link>http://www.southasianconnection.com</link><description /><language>en-us</language><copyright><![CDATA[http://www.southasianconnection.com]]></copyright><generator>N/A</generator><webMaster>info@southasianconnection.com</webMaster><lastBuildDate>Sat, 18 May 2013 12:33:21 MDT</lastBuildDate><ttl>20</ttl><item><title><![CDATA[Comment #1]]></title><link>http://www.southasianconnection.com/articles/161/1/Jesus-Christ---Reason-for-the-Season/Page1.html#Comment1994</link><description><![CDATA[Merry Christmas and happy holidays to all readers of SAC.<br/><br/>
(Comment posted by Shaun Singh at 7:28 am, Fri 22nd Dec 2006)]]></description><author>no@spam.com (Shaun Singh)</author><pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 22 Dec 2006 07:28:21 MST]]></pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.southasianconnection.com/articles/161/1/Jesus-Christ---Reason-for-the-Season/Page1.html#Comment1994</guid></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comment #2]]></title><link>http://www.southasianconnection.com/articles/161/1/Jesus-Christ---Reason-for-the-Season/Page1.html#Comment2002</link><description><![CDATA[Merry Christmas to all. 

I thank Pastor Sandhu to post relevant verses from the Bible about Jesus' birth. As you know Jesus was never called Immanuel. Interestingly, the good pastor posted from Gospel of Mathew, these two veses: 
18 This is how the birth of Jesus Christ came about: His mother Mary was pledged to be married to Joseph, but before they came together, she was found to be with child through the Holy Spirit. 
19. Because Joseph her husband was a righteous man and did not want to expose her to public disgrace, he had in mind to divorce her quietly. 

In verse 19, Joseph is a husband of Mary as opposed to what is mentioned in verse 18. What's going on?
Moreover, I urge the readers to bring to focus their critical senses. The Jesus's "un-natural virgin birth" story as depicted the Bible is immoral and unethical. Such kinds of stories are prevalent in Puranas, a pseudo-historical set of Hindu scriptures. <br/><br/>
(Comment posted by GB Singh at 5:52 am, Sat 23rd Dec 2006)]]></description><author>no@spam.com (GB Singh)</author><pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 23 Dec 2006 05:52:39 MST]]></pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.southasianconnection.com/articles/161/1/Jesus-Christ---Reason-for-the-Season/Page1.html#Comment2002</guid></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comment #3]]></title><link>http://www.southasianconnection.com/articles/161/1/Jesus-Christ---Reason-for-the-Season/Page1.html#Comment2003</link><description><![CDATA[With God ALL things are possible, even a virgin birth. God is not limited by circumstances, things in the natural or even by impossibilities . . . God is a miracle worker par excellence and master transformer of lives. <br/><br/>
(Comment posted by Joginder Singh Dhaliwal at 5:57 pm, Sat 23rd Dec 2006)]]></description><author>no@spam.com (Joginder Singh Dhaliwal)</author><pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 23 Dec 2006 17:57:16 MST]]></pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.southasianconnection.com/articles/161/1/Jesus-Christ---Reason-for-the-Season/Page1.html#Comment2003</guid></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comment #4]]></title><link>http://www.southasianconnection.com/articles/161/1/Jesus-Christ---Reason-for-the-Season/Page1.html#Comment2006</link><description><![CDATA[Mr. J.S. Dhaliwal needs to entertain the idea of pious frauds enshrined in the religious literatures including the Bible. Yes, if you open your brain's critical faculties that God has given you, you might be able able to see the fiction literature as truly fiction and not otherwise. I would urge Mr. Dhaliwal to open this website and read the contents: 
http://www.sikhspectrum.com/112006/gbs.htm

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(Comment posted by G.B. Singh at 10:52 am, Sun 24th Dec 2006)]]></description><author>no@spam.com (G.B. Singh)</author><pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 24 Dec 2006 10:52:51 MST]]></pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.southasianconnection.com/articles/161/1/Jesus-Christ---Reason-for-the-Season/Page1.html#Comment2006</guid></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comment #5]]></title><link>http://www.southasianconnection.com/articles/161/1/Jesus-Christ---Reason-for-the-Season/Page1.html#Comment2012</link><description><![CDATA[I draw the attention of GB Singh to Mathew 1:23 wherein it is written, “Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call His name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, “GOD IS WITH US”

The Virgin birth of Jesus Christ is unique in the human history. When Mary, the woman espoused to Joseph was found with child of the Holy Ghost, Joseph being a just man wanted to put her away privily. Then the angel appeared to him in a dream and said that the child conceived in her woman is of the Holy Ghost. This Child was not born due to the sexual union of His earthly parents. He is Emmanuel. The unseen and the omnipotent God is with us because Jesus was born.  Due to the birth of Jesus, we have God with us. It is not due to our good deeds like feeding the hungry, etc. but due to the birth of Jesus Christ, God is with us. It is not due to our citing some religious scriptures but due to the birth of Jesus Christ, God is with us. 

The Child was legitimate because He was given to us in accordance with the Covenant of God.  He was the child of the Holy Spirit.  He was not the child of Joseph and Mary, though God had chosen the womb of a woman to give birth to this divine Child. The birth of this Child fulfilled all the requirements of the Old Testament Covenant. This Child took birth to give us light. This Child took birth to deliver us from sin. The religions tell us about God but this Child brought the very God to us. 

God with us! When the humanity is staggering with the burden of sin, this Child came into this world to bring the very presence of God in our midst. It is not a fiction story invented by some people because fiction is not supported by historical evidence and logic. 

How can the science question the birth of this Child?  The Science is merely a tool to discover what this Child had created. No one should use the tool of biological science to disprove this great truth. This Child is of the Holy Spirit. Even an earthly child taking its life in its embryo is mysterious! Can the critics tell us how does a child in the mother’s womb get its life?  
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(Comment posted by Job Anbalagan at 9:30 pm, Mon 25th Dec 2006)]]></description><author>no@spam.com (Job Anbalagan)</author><pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 25 Dec 2006 21:30:02 MST]]></pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.southasianconnection.com/articles/161/1/Jesus-Christ---Reason-for-the-Season/Page1.html#Comment2012</guid></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comment #6]]></title><link>http://www.southasianconnection.com/articles/161/1/Jesus-Christ---Reason-for-the-Season/Page1.html#Comment2016</link><description><![CDATA[With respect to comment #5, Respectful Job Anbalagan gave an explaination trying to solve one problem--in this case with reference to the name of Immanuel. Its a nice try but not good enough. 
If there is indeed a good  explanation, my ears are open to listen; eyes open to read.  <br/><br/>
(Comment posted by GB Singh at 7:59 pm, Tue 26th Dec 2006)]]></description><author>no@spam.com (GB Singh)</author><pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 26 Dec 2006 19:59:51 MST]]></pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.southasianconnection.com/articles/161/1/Jesus-Christ---Reason-for-the-Season/Page1.html#Comment2016</guid></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comment #7]]></title><link>http://www.southasianconnection.com/articles/161/1/Jesus-Christ---Reason-for-the-Season/Page1.html#Comment2018</link><description><![CDATA[All the ideas of Christianity came from Zorastrianism.

Introduction:
Zoroastrianism is a small religion with about 140,000 members. Yet its importance to humanity is much greater than its current numbers might suggest, because: 

Their theology has had a great impact on Judaism, Christianity and other later religions, in the beliefs surrounding God and Satan, the soul, heaven and hell, savior, resurrection, final judgment, 
It is one of the oldest religions still in existence, and the first monotheistic religion. 

The religion was founded by Zarathushtra (Zoroaster in Greek; Zarthosht in India and Persia). Conservative Zoroastrians assign a date of 6000 BCE to the founding of the religion; other followers estimate 600 BCE. Historians and religious scholars generally date his life sometime between 1500 and 1000 BCE on the basis of his style of writing. 

He lived in Persia, modern day Iran. Legends say that his birth was predicted and that attempts were made by the forces of evil to kill him as a child. He preached a monotheism in a land which followed an aboriginal polytheistic religion. He was attacked for his teaching, but finally won the support of the king. Zoroastrianism became the state religion of various Persian empires, until the 7th Century CE. 

When Muslim Arabs invaded Persia in 650 CE, a small number of Zoroastrians fled to India where most are concentrated today. Those who remained behind have survived centuries of persecution, systematic slaughter, forced conversion, heavy taxes, etc. They now number only about 18,000 and reside chiefly in Yazd, Kernan and Tehran in what is now Iran. The 1991 census counted 3,190 Zoroastrians in Canada. The actual number is believed to be much higher. 




Zorastrian Sacred Text:
The Zorastrian holy book is called the Avesta. This includes the original words of their founder Zarathushtra, preserved in a series of five hymns, called the Gathas. The latter represent the core text of the religion. The Gathas are abstract sacred poetry, directed towards the worship of the One God, understanding of righteousness and cosmic order, promotion of social justice and individual choice between good and evil. The Gathas have a general and even universal vision. 

At some later date (most scholars say many centuries later), the remaining parts of the Avestas were written. These deal with laws of ritual and practice, with the traditions of the faith. The Zoroastrian community is sharply divided between those who would follow mostly (or exclusively) the teachings of the original Gathas, and those who believe that the later traditions are important and equally divinely inspired. 



Zoroastrian Beliefs:
Beliefs include: 

 A single god Ahura Mazda who is supreme. Communication between Himself and humans is by a number of Attributes, called Amesha Spentas or Bounteous Immortals. Within the Gathas, the original Zoroastrian sacred text, these Immortals are sometimes described as concepts, and are sometimes personified. 

 One school of thought promotes a cosmic dualism between:  An all powerful God Ahura Mazda who is the only deity worthy of being worshipped, and 

 An evil spirit of violence and death, Angra Mainyu, who opposes Ahura Mazda. 

The resulting cosmic conflict involves the entire universe, including humanity who is required to choose which to follow. Evil, and the Spirit of Evil, will be completely destroyed at the end of time. Dualism will come to an end and Goodness will be all in all. 
 
 Another school of thought perceives the battle between Good and Evil as an ethical dualism, set within the human consciousness. 

 Asha is a form of righteous, all encompassing, natural law. 

 Legends, which are probably not those of Zarathushtra's original teachings are:  After death, the urvan (soul) is allowed three days to meditate on his/her past life. The soul is then judged by a troika Mithra, Sraosha and Rashnu. If the good thoughts, words and deeds outweigh the bad, then the soul is taken into heaven. Otherwise, the soul is led to hell. 

 The universe will go through three eras:  creation; 
the present world where good and evil are mixed. People's good works are seen as gradually transforming the world towards its heavenly ideal; 
and a final state after this renovation when good and evil will be separated. 

Eventually, everything will be purified. Even the occupants of hell will be released. 
 
 A Saoshyant (savior) will be born of a virgin, but of the lineage of the Prophet Zoroaster who will raise the dead and judge everyone in a final judgment. 
 
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(Comment posted by Shaun Singh at 12:02 pm, Wed 27th Dec 2006)]]></description><author>no@spam.com (Shaun Singh)</author><pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 27 Dec 2006 12:02:49 MST]]></pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.southasianconnection.com/articles/161/1/Jesus-Christ---Reason-for-the-Season/Page1.html#Comment2018</guid></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comment #8]]></title><link>http://www.southasianconnection.com/articles/161/1/Jesus-Christ---Reason-for-the-Season/Page1.html#Comment2019</link><description><![CDATA[One thing really puzzle me.

Why does it have to be angel who inform Mary of her future virgin Birth? Such an important event and God is unable to tell Mary of his own son coming to Earth.?

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(Comment posted by Shaun Singh at 2:29 pm, Wed 27th Dec 2006)]]></description><author>no@spam.com (Shaun Singh)</author><pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 27 Dec 2006 14:29:11 MST]]></pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.southasianconnection.com/articles/161/1/Jesus-Christ---Reason-for-the-Season/Page1.html#Comment2019</guid></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comment #9]]></title><link>http://www.southasianconnection.com/articles/161/1/Jesus-Christ---Reason-for-the-Season/Page1.html#Comment2050</link><description><![CDATA[I have no comments to offer on the "revelations" made by Shaun Singh about the origin of Christianity. Let him believe like that. We know the truth and are of the truth. 

God sent the angel to Mary to tell her that the Seed conceived in her womb was of the Holy Spirit. The angels are ministering spirits who convey God's messages to the human beings. Since Mary was a human being, God conveyed that message to her. Since the Son of God became flesh through the womb of Mary, God had to convey that message to her through His angel. 
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